Visual part is nice and Landing page and slick. However, I am not trolling but what happens when NextJS is no longer the hot commodity that it is today. I would prefer a Visual CMS that lets me do all this but the output should always be static HTML/CSS/JS. Most tools either do the visual part well but fail at the output or vice versa. I don't mind if the stack is NextJS or whatever but the final output should be a static HTML. Bonus if you can push to deploy to Netlify/Cloudflare Pages/S3 etc
I see more of a reason for nextjs than tailwind personally. Having perhaps different export formats would be good but I do feel like nextjs is a decent standard, for now at least.
I'm not sure this is exactly true these days with htmx I've been having a rush of fun again with light weight front ends. And full two way binding support.
I hope this is the next standard for CMS-style sites. I'm eagerly waiting for the thing that's easy enough for non-coders to use that doesn't make the code-capable maintainers want to cry mercy.
I was pretty optimistic about netlify-cms the approach they took just missed the mark on some technical things that NextJS handles as part of the framework.
Best of luck! IMO there's still lots of opportunity in visual site builders, and this one looks like it has a lot of potential.
I have seen far too much VB and VBA that was written by people who were only *ish* code-capable.
BUT.
The thing is, the result did basically work, was extremely useful to the people who were using it, and if the 'ish' person hadn't written it wouldn't've existed at all.
So I'm genuinely glad that they did write it, and they were pretty much invariably somebody who was self taught, doing their best, in isolation, with nobody around them who even rose to the level of 'ish' to bounce ideas off or give feedback.
It's actually quite a fascinating challenge to refactor code like that such that it becomes more structurally coherent *and* is still understandable and modifyable by the original author (ideally easier to modify, but I will settle for not making their lives harder while also making it easier for somebody like me to debug weird shit problems for them when they ask me to pitch in).
So my 'aaaaaaa' here is in a spirit of 'where did I put the tissue box, my eyes are bleeding again' but not at all in a spirit of criticising the original author. They made it work at all!
But any thought on trying to make it possible for people who don't code at all to produce non 'aaaaaaaa' inducing results needs to account for the part where we can't even manage that for the 'ish' people, and thus I am very suspicious of the odds of it ever working out.
It looks that way from some cosmetic choices, but structurally this kind of UI has been around a long time in many apps. Probably no one can claim to own it at this point.
I am curious how this compares to developing a site using the various AI/IDE add-ons. If you're already a developer enough to care that it's using Next.js, it seems like bringing up in Cursor might be similarly effective, though less visual.
Still, I'm happy to see developers pursuing tools like this.
I like it. Also pricing is sensible. Yearly $100 is OK for this tool, monthly, I honestly will not even consider, as you can see people are fed up with monthly subs.
I also like what I see in roadmap, you should have components, sync to github etc. So it looks like promising product to me.
I'd happily pay a fixed fee for a self-hostable desktop app version of this, that just uses Ollama/ChatGPT/Claude for the LLM part. Ideally open source too.
as others have mentioned, this would be great if it would spit html fragments instead of react components. It would be really useful for quickly building htmx apps.
Visual part is nice and Landing page and slick. However, I am not trolling but what happens when NextJS is no longer the hot commodity that it is today. I would prefer a Visual CMS that lets me do all this but the output should always be static HTML/CSS/JS. Most tools either do the visual part well but fail at the output or vice versa. I don't mind if the stack is NextJS or whatever but the final output should be a static HTML. Bonus if you can push to deploy to Netlify/Cloudflare Pages/S3 etc
https://pinegrow.com may serve your needs well here epic product
I think you are looking for FrontPage or Dreamweaver?
The exported code will always work, it doesn't depend on any popularity?
I see more of a reason for nextjs than tailwind personally. Having perhaps different export formats would be good but I do feel like nextjs is a decent standard, for now at least.
always pushing to static HTML limits you to minimal backend interactivity
I'm not sure this is exactly true these days with htmx I've been having a rush of fun again with light weight front ends. And full two way binding support.
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I hope this is the next standard for CMS-style sites. I'm eagerly waiting for the thing that's easy enough for non-coders to use that doesn't make the code-capable maintainers want to cry mercy.
I was pretty optimistic about netlify-cms the approach they took just missed the mark on some technical things that NextJS handles as part of the framework.
Best of luck! IMO there's still lots of opportunity in visual site builders, and this one looks like it has a lot of potential.
> I'm eagerly waiting for the thing that's easy enough for non-coders to use that doesn't make the code-capable maintainers want to cry mercy.
As a former VBasic dev, don't hold your breath!
Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa.
I have seen far too much VB and VBA that was written by people who were only *ish* code-capable.
BUT.
The thing is, the result did basically work, was extremely useful to the people who were using it, and if the 'ish' person hadn't written it wouldn't've existed at all.
So I'm genuinely glad that they did write it, and they were pretty much invariably somebody who was self taught, doing their best, in isolation, with nobody around them who even rose to the level of 'ish' to bounce ideas off or give feedback.
It's actually quite a fascinating challenge to refactor code like that such that it becomes more structurally coherent *and* is still understandable and modifyable by the original author (ideally easier to modify, but I will settle for not making their lives harder while also making it easier for somebody like me to debug weird shit problems for them when they ask me to pitch in).
So my 'aaaaaaa' here is in a spirit of 'where did I put the tissue box, my eyes are bleeding again' but not at all in a spirit of criticising the original author. They made it work at all!
But any thought on trying to make it possible for people who don't code at all to produce non 'aaaaaaaa' inducing results needs to account for the part where we can't even manage that for the 'ish' people, and thus I am very suspicious of the odds of it ever working out.
This has been quite common in big money CMS for several years, with OutSystems being the best one in RAD development.
The intro graphic shows someone building a website with the title: "Leveraging AI to solve the world's biggest problems"
At first glance this gives the impression that Reweb is some sort of LLM-aided "describe what you want it to build" tool
But (unless I misunderstood) it's mostly a WYSIWYG tool, albeit there does seem to be an "AI theme generation" component
(Personally I prefer the latter type of tool - just suggesting currently it may give the wrong impression)
That site crashed my browser
typical nextjs/react bloat, imagine you were using entry-level android like half the world population.
It froze mine for a while. Pretty bad.
UI looks ripped from Framer
It looks that way from some cosmetic choices, but structurally this kind of UI has been around a long time in many apps. Probably no one can claim to own it at this point.
There are only so many ways you can do WYSIWYG editor UI.
Is there a website builder that emits just vanilla JS and html instead?
yup: https://grapesjs.com/
Self-hostable too.
Thanks for sharing! This looks good.
I think Pinegrow will do this? https://pinegrow.com/
FrontPage and Dreamweaver are like 20 years old now.
Webstudio.io is another good one to look at
Ah so it's a Next.js tool, because of that reason I'm out!
Looks pretty impressive! Kinda makes me jealous as a Sveltekit dev.
can just copy the generated raw markup and use shadcn-svelte
They offer a lifetime pricing tier, which will obviously removed in a few years if the company still exists. I wonder why a SaaS would even bother.
I am curious how this compares to developing a site using the various AI/IDE add-ons. If you're already a developer enough to care that it's using Next.js, it seems like bringing up in Cursor might be similarly effective, though less visual.
Still, I'm happy to see developers pursuing tools like this.
I like it. Also pricing is sensible. Yearly $100 is OK for this tool, monthly, I honestly will not even consider, as you can see people are fed up with monthly subs.
I also like what I see in roadmap, you should have components, sync to github etc. So it looks like promising product to me.
I generally like these tools, but I hate how they focus so much on one specific framework.
Tailwind is so general, why wouldn't you build a tool that works with Vue, that works with React, that works with Svelte?
Page title: The visual website builder for Next.js & Tailwind
For me the desire to test something cools down the spot where I am requried to create an account just to test it.
I'd happily pay a fixed fee for a self-hostable desktop app version of this, that just uses Ollama/ChatGPT/Claude for the LLM part. Ideally open source too.
But yet another subscription? ... no thanks
other commenter @XzAeRosho shared it https://grapesjs.com/
Pinegrow: https://pinegrow.com/
as others have mentioned, this would be great if it would spit html fragments instead of react components. It would be really useful for quickly building htmx apps.
Can you reimport from VS Code back into Reweb?
Or make this a Code extension?
Agreed this would be way more useful as an IDE extension.
Great to see such a tool not tied to a hosting formula, page views and everything.
I see the value in helping me (the dev) quickly setting up landing pages and including them in my existing website that I host where I want.
For me, visiting this site crashes Firefox on iOS.
This seems like it would be slower than just using Next.js and Tailwind. What is it adding?
is there some free local app like this available?
Tailwind this Tailwind that. There is absolutely no reason these tools can't just output well structured css, but it has to have Tailwind because.
How long do you think this will last, longer than boostrap?
Frontend is such a shit show.
Begind a paywall.