I'm ready to accept my "right too soon" medal whenever.
Y'all owe shanley kane an apology too she's been writing about this shit for years. Sydette harry, so many others. We've known for so long, been saying it for years.
Paul, there are also a huge number of other places where you can post your thoughts, rather than at a site owned by someone who pals around with the chief of the police state and does his level best to bring it into existence.
I ask this with sincere curiosity -
what does his current place of residence have to do with his message that programmers should avoid companies building infrastructure for the police state?
I don't understand your objections. It seems like if anything his place of residence would give him first hand experience of why you don't want to live under a police state.
It’s not illegal to encrypt backups in the UK and the country does not come close to meeting any generally accepted definition of a “police state”. There is currently a lot of anti-UK hype in certain online spaces (including HN) which wildly exaggerates various real problems (such as the UK government’s attacks on data privacy) to the extent where people end up with a wholly false picture of what life in the UK is like.
Consider that PG could live more or less where he likes (leaving aside any private personal circumstances of his, which I know nothing about). If he chooses to live in the UK, that may suggest that it’s not actually as bad over here as you imagine.
Based on your other comments in this thread, you seem to be more annoyed by alarmist news stories about the UK than you are by ICE throwing people with no criminal records into Salvadorian jails without trial. I’d question your media consumption choices if ‘UK’ makes you think ‘police state’ and yet current events in the US appear wholly unconcerning. What’s that you were saying about flooding the zone?
The UK has real problems (as do many other countries), but these deserve substantive discussion, not repetitions of lazy tropes from the nameless one’s Twitter feed.
What was that about gangs? Most of the Venezuelans sent to El Salvador appear to have no criminal record. And Trump has explicitly said that citizens are next.
And what, pray tell, do you think that word means? Because I saw him say it in an interview. And in other venues, too.
> "I call them homegrown criminals," Mr. Trump told Fox Noticias. "I mean, the homegrowns that grew up and something went wrong and they hit people over the head with a baseball bat. We have — and push people into subways, just before the train gets there, like you see happening sometimes. We are looking into it, and we want to do it. I would love to do that."
This is called "trolling", you should look it up. Trump is a media guy, and has been for much of his life - he does this deliberately to flood the zone with something ridiculous so that attention is diverted from the more salient things. See e.g. "51st state", "Greenland", etc, etc. Protip: he's not going to do any of this, but while y'all are hyperventilating, DOGE is cutting costs, agencies are getting shut down, illegals are getting deported, nominees are getting approved, etc.
I think you might be right. I think "flooding the zone with shit" might be the only effective response when the zone is already flooded with everyone else's shit (msm, social media etc)
"We are looking into it" means he is looking for ways to do it [under the law], which is non-trivial for the regular US citizen. This is leaps and bounds different than "citizens are next."
There is an individual[1] who goes to pro-Hamas protests in England carrying a sign that states the official stance of UK on Hamas (i.e. that it is a terrorist organization) and inevitably gets arrested by the UK police state. Quite rich of 'pg to throw stones from his UK glass castle.
https://xcancel.com/paulg/status/1913338841068404903
Incidentally, Palantir is the company that gets a hard-on from building slaughterbots: https://www.reddit.com/r/OpenAI/comments/1hexwjc/slaughterbo...
(Shrug) Like it or not (and I don't), that's how wars will be fought from now on. Somebody has to build the weapons.
I'm ready to accept my "right too soon" medal whenever.
Y'all owe shanley kane an apology too she's been writing about this shit for years. Sydette harry, so many others. We've known for so long, been saying it for years.
Paul, there are also a huge number of other places where you can post your thoughts, rather than at a site owned by someone who pals around with the chief of the police state and does his level best to bring it into existence.
paulg loves that site's owner because stopping the "woke mind virus" is worth it for him
Well, this is the natural end state of the “‘woke mind virus’ virus.”
I hope he realizes that at some point. But I feel like influencers have a hard time with humility and introspection.
Principles are important, but not I'll-post-on-a-platform-with-less-clout-potential important.
It's not really purely principled when the platform is known to manipulate that 'clout' to meet ideological goals.
Doesn't he live in a literal police state (the UK) where encrypted backups are illegal and people are fined and thrown in jail for Twitter shitposts?
I ask this with sincere curiosity - what does his current place of residence have to do with his message that programmers should avoid companies building infrastructure for the police state?
I don't understand your objections. It seems like if anything his place of residence would give him first hand experience of why you don't want to live under a police state.
It’s not illegal to encrypt backups in the UK and the country does not come close to meeting any generally accepted definition of a “police state”. There is currently a lot of anti-UK hype in certain online spaces (including HN) which wildly exaggerates various real problems (such as the UK government’s attacks on data privacy) to the extent where people end up with a wholly false picture of what life in the UK is like.
Consider that PG could live more or less where he likes (leaving aside any private personal circumstances of his, which I know nothing about). If he chooses to live in the UK, that may suggest that it’s not actually as bad over here as you imagine.
Based on your other comments in this thread, you seem to be more annoyed by alarmist news stories about the UK than you are by ICE throwing people with no criminal records into Salvadorian jails without trial. I’d question your media consumption choices if ‘UK’ makes you think ‘police state’ and yet current events in the US appear wholly unconcerning. What’s that you were saying about flooding the zone?
The UK has real problems (as do many other countries), but these deserve substantive discussion, not repetitions of lazy tropes from the nameless one’s Twitter feed.
Jail (with due process) is still better than freaking El Salvador.
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What was that about gangs? Most of the Venezuelans sent to El Salvador appear to have no criminal record. And Trump has explicitly said that citizens are next.
> Most of the Venezuelans sent to El Salvador appear to have no criminal record
Your appear to does a lot of heavy-lifting here. Appear to whom?
> And Trump has explicitly said that citizens are next.
You have a different dictionary than I do: explicitly does not mean what you think it means.
> Your appear to does a lot of heavy-lifting here. Appear to whom?
They were being polite. The White House has admitted such:
https://www.miamiherald.com/news/local/immigration/article30...
And what, pray tell, do you think that word means? Because I saw him say it in an interview. And in other venues, too.
> "I call them homegrown criminals," Mr. Trump told Fox Noticias. "I mean, the homegrowns that grew up and something went wrong and they hit people over the head with a baseball bat. We have — and push people into subways, just before the train gets there, like you see happening sometimes. We are looking into it, and we want to do it. I would love to do that."
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/trump-homegrown-criminals-forei...
This is called "trolling", you should look it up. Trump is a media guy, and has been for much of his life - he does this deliberately to flood the zone with something ridiculous so that attention is diverted from the more salient things. See e.g. "51st state", "Greenland", etc, etc. Protip: he's not going to do any of this, but while y'all are hyperventilating, DOGE is cutting costs, agencies are getting shut down, illegals are getting deported, nominees are getting approved, etc.
I think you might be right. I think "flooding the zone with shit" might be the only effective response when the zone is already flooded with everyone else's shit (msm, social media etc)
"We are looking into it" means he is looking for ways to do it [under the law], which is non-trivial for the regular US citizen. This is leaps and bounds different than "citizens are next."
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There is an individual[1] who goes to pro-Hamas protests in England carrying a sign that states the official stance of UK on Hamas (i.e. that it is a terrorist organization) and inevitably gets arrested by the UK police state. Quite rich of 'pg to throw stones from his UK glass castle.
[1]: https://x.com/GhorbaniiNiyak