The oath is: "I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic" and I'm seeing a lot of domestic enemies these days... Time for our men and women in uniform to get to work cleaning house.
That is a very dangerous step. Do you trust the military to install someone better, or at least someone more willing to live within the bounds of the constitution and the rule of law? Likely yes.
But once that precedent is set... do you trust the next military overthrow to install someone who will keep the constitution?
That's the problem with throwing out the rules to solve the current crisis (for any value of "the current crisis"). Now you have the precedent that the rules can be thrown out, and the next power-hungry wannabe will see that as a path that can be exploited.
And that's the problem with Trump. He has established the precedent that the normal rules can be run over, as long as you do it as a speedrun. That precedent - that demonstration - will remain, even after Trump is gone.
So all we have left is minimizing the damage. Does having the military overthrow him minimize the damage? It stops the damage he's doing, true, but it does its own damage.
We threw out the rules before with the Declaration of Independence. Our entire country's founding ethos grew out of the casting down of an established government and the formation of a new one.
To be quite frank, there would be nothing more American than overthrowing these jackasses if they're as willing to desecrate the foundation of our Union as they are.
The military need to overthrow these fools not aid them
The oath is: "I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic" and I'm seeing a lot of domestic enemies these days... Time for our men and women in uniform to get to work cleaning house.
That is a very dangerous step. Do you trust the military to install someone better, or at least someone more willing to live within the bounds of the constitution and the rule of law? Likely yes.
But once that precedent is set... do you trust the next military overthrow to install someone who will keep the constitution?
That's the problem with throwing out the rules to solve the current crisis (for any value of "the current crisis"). Now you have the precedent that the rules can be thrown out, and the next power-hungry wannabe will see that as a path that can be exploited.
And that's the problem with Trump. He has established the precedent that the normal rules can be run over, as long as you do it as a speedrun. That precedent - that demonstration - will remain, even after Trump is gone.
So all we have left is minimizing the damage. Does having the military overthrow him minimize the damage? It stops the damage he's doing, true, but it does its own damage.
We threw out the rules before with the Declaration of Independence. Our entire country's founding ethos grew out of the casting down of an established government and the formation of a new one.
To be quite frank, there would be nothing more American than overthrowing these jackasses if they're as willing to desecrate the foundation of our Union as they are.
Tired of this clown.
We don’t need armed service members in standoffs with (mostly peaceful) protestors.
Send them to Ukraine or Gaza if you want them to get some real experience, maybe Hegseth can even go lead them and show us how tough he is!
https://archive.is/xnTMa
WTF
More: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45429040
I fervently hope there are enough grownups left in the military who will refuse illegal orders, even if it costs them their careers.
I can't believe that the survival of US democracy comes down to that.
The fascism speed run continues.
Civil War doesn't sound so crazy anymore.
Are there different titles at play here?
Alt title: Pete Hegseth claims US military is unprepared for war in wide-ranging speech
Probably, most of these sites use multiple titles and A/B test them before settling on one for display.