SpacetimeDB looks interesting as a concept (the tech behind this server) but I could never sus out how could it would be in actual practice. I’ve always been interested in some post-mortems or reflections on the tech from other companies besides the founders
Old man here shaking his fist. While I acknowledge and appreciate the technical effort and let’s face it, an exemplary example in preserving games long after they are maintained by the original creators.
But this is not an “rpg”, it’s a gathering, crafting, and hanging out simulator. That’s fine by its own definition, but I don’t see any mechanisms which allow for actual roleplay? Please prove me wrong
RPG designates a game with less reliance on a player's actual execution and more reliance on their character's simulated execution. Video games aside, plenty of people run full TTRPG campaigns without ever meaningfully engaging in RP.
I think that they mean that you can't make a "BitCraft" server as it would infringe on their trademark. If you made a "ByteCraft" server with all of your own assets, and didn't mention "BitCraft" at all, even if the code was exactly the same, I'd imagine you would be in the clear.
I'd imagine that by making a "BitCraft" server, it actually wouldn't violate the source code license terms at all, but they are putting you on notice that it would violate trademark and copyright on non-code things, so it wouldn't be legal irregardless of the code license.
>>> The BitCraft source code is licensed under the Apache 2.0 license. See LICENSE for license details. The license applies only to the contents of this repository. It doesn't extend to any other assets or code that is not part of BitCraftPublic.
Contents of the repo are fair game, anything bitcraft related outside the repo is not, and you have to share attribution under Apache - seems fair. I don't see any bitcraft assets or trademark things in the codebase, but I wonder how much of the game logic and play has to change before it's sufficiently different from the things being protected?
You can use the source code to build your own MMO, but not one that replicates BitCraft's servers. Since the assets themselves are not open sourced, it wouldn't really be possible to do that anyway.
It's much more permissive than source available: you can use the source code for nearly any of your own projects, just not one specific application.
This is really cool. If you've never seen it before BitCraft is quite a lot like Runescape. Great art style and very crunchy gathering/crafting gameplay.
The developer open sourcing all of this is awesome.
SpacetimeDB looks interesting as a concept (the tech behind this server) but I could never sus out how could it would be in actual practice. I’ve always been interested in some post-mortems or reflections on the tech from other companies besides the founders
Old man here shaking his fist. While I acknowledge and appreciate the technical effort and let’s face it, an exemplary example in preserving games long after they are maintained by the original creators. But this is not an “rpg”, it’s a gathering, crafting, and hanging out simulator. That’s fine by its own definition, but I don’t see any mechanisms which allow for actual roleplay? Please prove me wrong
RPG designates a game with less reliance on a player's actual execution and more reliance on their character's simulated execution. Video games aside, plenty of people run full TTRPG campaigns without ever meaningfully engaging in RP.
I guess that’s one way to deal with a mixed review score on steam.
> You cannot:
> Operate official, unofficial, private or any otherwise competing BitCraft servers
Doesn't this contradict the Apache license? Isn't this "source-available"?
I think that they mean that you can't make a "BitCraft" server as it would infringe on their trademark. If you made a "ByteCraft" server with all of your own assets, and didn't mention "BitCraft" at all, even if the code was exactly the same, I'd imagine you would be in the clear.
I'd imagine that by making a "BitCraft" server, it actually wouldn't violate the source code license terms at all, but they are putting you on notice that it would violate trademark and copyright on non-code things, so it wouldn't be legal irregardless of the code license.
>>> The BitCraft source code is licensed under the Apache 2.0 license. See LICENSE for license details. The license applies only to the contents of this repository. It doesn't extend to any other assets or code that is not part of BitCraftPublic.
Contents of the repo are fair game, anything bitcraft related outside the repo is not, and you have to share attribution under Apache - seems fair. I don't see any bitcraft assets or trademark things in the codebase, but I wonder how much of the game logic and play has to change before it's sufficiently different from the things being protected?
You can use the source code to build your own MMO, but not one that replicates BitCraft's servers. Since the assets themselves are not open sourced, it wouldn't really be possible to do that anyway.
It's much more permissive than source available: you can use the source code for nearly any of your own projects, just not one specific application.
This is really cool. If you've never seen it before BitCraft is quite a lot like Runescape. Great art style and very crunchy gathering/crafting gameplay.
The developer open sourcing all of this is awesome.
Here's an blog post from them last year covering their open source plans: https://bitcraftonline.com/news/open-sourcing-bitcraft-onlin...
Apparently they are planning to also open source the game client in the future [1], which seems cool.
[1]: https://bitcraftonline.com/news/bitcraft-open-sourcing-updat...
This is really cool, I don't really recall another MMO server written in Rust like this.
Maybe Veloren: https://gitlab.com/veloren/veloren
But I don't know if it really fits the "Massive" aspect of MMO