I see a group of countries trying to work together. As this is a massive coordination effort and the participants all want different things, it can only go slow. As with every governmental entity, there probably is some waste. But the alternative is each country for himself, so I rather have the UN.
> But the alternative is each country for himself, so I rather have the UN.
That's a false dichotomy. The alternatives includes giving each country an equal standing without a veto, votes proportional to the population, or even fully direct democracy by every person in the world, and a million other alternatives I could think of if given an afternoon.
It's absolutely logically valid to think that international coordination is valuable but that the UN is a poor solution for this, and is blocking off a better solution. Recall also that before the UN we had the League of Nations, which had a similar mission but an even worse implementation, and there's a wide consensus that it's good that it was replaced.
Trump does seem to resent the UN in part because of both the influence of Israel/AIPAC in the human rights realm, Russia in the war of aggression realm, COVID reactionaries/MAHA in the health realm and Elon Musk/Christian White superiority interests in the humanitarian realm - no more aid to non white Christians in developing world. It is the perfect storm for the UN.
US is done with the UN under Trump. Will we see a rethink if/when Democrats come back and then whipsaw back when Republicans gain power again?
The West said it is ok for Israil to commit genocide and steal land for decades.
East said, OK now it is our turn. Both use their veto power to continue their crimes/genocide.
United Nations and E.U are happy to send people to prison for wrongspeak. They want what China and Russia has - controlled democracy dictatorship. Manufacture consent. Thats why theyre importing violent illegals - to root out those who would dare defy.
It is truly sad how ineffective the U.N. is
The UN is an absolute farce.
I see a group of countries trying to work together. As this is a massive coordination effort and the participants all want different things, it can only go slow. As with every governmental entity, there probably is some waste. But the alternative is each country for himself, so I rather have the UN.
> But the alternative is each country for himself, so I rather have the UN.
That's a false dichotomy. The alternatives includes giving each country an equal standing without a veto, votes proportional to the population, or even fully direct democracy by every person in the world, and a million other alternatives I could think of if given an afternoon.
It's absolutely logically valid to think that international coordination is valuable but that the UN is a poor solution for this, and is blocking off a better solution. Recall also that before the UN we had the League of Nations, which had a similar mission but an even worse implementation, and there's a wide consensus that it's good that it was replaced.
'Could shatter'? The Russians already shattered that 4 years ago.
Did USSR shatter that with Afghanistan, or USA with Vietnam?..
It already shattered in Gaza genocide. UN is useless.
Trump does seem to resent the UN in part because of both the influence of Israel/AIPAC in the human rights realm, Russia in the war of aggression realm, COVID reactionaries/MAHA in the health realm and Elon Musk/Christian White superiority interests in the humanitarian realm - no more aid to non white Christians in developing world. It is the perfect storm for the UN.
US is done with the UN under Trump. Will we see a rethink if/when Democrats come back and then whipsaw back when Republicans gain power again?
The West said it is ok for Israil to commit genocide and steal land for decades. East said, OK now it is our turn. Both use their veto power to continue their crimes/genocide.
United Nations and E.U are happy to send people to prison for wrongspeak. They want what China and Russia has - controlled democracy dictatorship. Manufacture consent. Thats why theyre importing violent illegals - to root out those who would dare defy.