How much do you have set aside for a service or burial or cremation? It came up during an argument recently with a family member, so if your outlook is that bleak, try not to shuffle off this mortal coil and leave us in the hole to put you in one. Please.
That is not a viable solution in the United States. Perhaps you live in India or Brazil where such solutions are legal? If not, when are you moving to such a country?
> That is not a viable solution in the United States
I saw a documentary on Discovery Channel, about 20 years ago when this channel still had something to offer, about New York mafia, where they stated that the New York mafia threw their victims in the garbage.
Why do I get the feeling Bezos will try to lobby to have the law allow Amazon to harvest dead employees’ organs and sell them for profit if they die in a warehouse?
Logical extension of standard business mentality, if you’re honest enough.
You consider it normal working condition if you're right next to the corpse of a colleague? As in literally, because that's what the article is about: being made to work right next to the corpse
In think that's quiet extreme, honestly. Wat beyond what it'd expect any supervisor to ask of the employees.
most people have some connections to their co-workers. And if one of your friends dies right in front of you... it should be human decency to at least give then some time to settle until the body has been taken care off.
Amazon employs around 900,000 people in logistics. The crude annual mortality rate in the USA is around 911/100,000. If there are 900,000 employees working eight hours a day then around seven people a day are dying of natural causes on their shift. This is without considering that they are being worked to the bone.
This only works if you assuming the mortality rates are evenly distributed. Most of the people who die are not working right until the end—and the conditions which lead to them dying usually aren’t compatible with a demanding job.
You are correct that it is a rough estimate but my point stands. While most of us will never experience the shock of someone dying at work, it is an every day occurrence at the scale of Amazon.
You have provided no evidence supporting that belief and brushing aside the obvious challenges makes it hard to believe you have done the math. I’d also note that if this was actually true, it would be more surprising that they didn’t have a policy for dealing with it and had to improvise on the fly.
The utter contempt you express for human life is abhorrent. Cloaking it in math only exacerbates your cruel disregard for, well, lacking shame in expressing such mental illness in public. I’d recommend therapy but you probably have a formula to justify not going to that either. Disgusting.
When I saw the article I recalled a doctor who worked at the sports stadium. Probably every stadium has a doctor on duty because there are medical emergencies any time you get 50,000 people together. Sometimes people die while they are still on the premises.
So I wanted to know how approximately how many people you would expect die of natural causes per day in a group of people as large as Amazon warehouse workers.
If you expect people to die every day while working in an Amazon warehouse and there was no cause of death disclosed for the unfortunate person referenced in TFA then the fact that he died is not news.
so they have to stop causing losses to the company and disrupt the supply chain? what should they be doing there instead? the person who has passes, is gone. no longer conscious or functional or ever will be. those workers working there have been provided a livelihood by Amazon so the incentive to keep going is to make sure they dont suffer losses so some of them can be let go.
Lets hope the lawyers for the poor person's family and the workers forced to keep working are very good at their job.
I expect to be working until I’m dead also
How much do you have set aside for a service or burial or cremation? It came up during an argument recently with a family member, so if your outlook is that bleak, try not to shuffle off this mortal coil and leave us in the hole to put you in one. Please.
well hopefully I’ll have enough squirreled away by then if life insurance won’t pay out
Just throw me in the trash
Cremate me and flush me down the toilet, or turn me into pebbles--
https://www.core77.com/posts/109631/Better-UX-for-Cremation-...
That is not a viable solution in the United States. Perhaps you live in India or Brazil where such solutions are legal? If not, when are you moving to such a country?
What would I care though? I'll be dead!
> That is not a viable solution in the United States
I saw a documentary on Discovery Channel, about 20 years ago when this channel still had something to offer, about New York mafia, where they stated that the New York mafia threw their victims in the garbage.
Why do I get the feeling Bezos will try to lobby to have the law allow Amazon to harvest dead employees’ organs and sell them for profit if they die in a warehouse?
Logical extension of standard business mentality, if you’re honest enough.
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Employees are in middle school so if something happens they should get a day off or something.
You consider it normal working condition if you're right next to the corpse of a colleague? As in literally, because that's what the article is about: being made to work right next to the corpse
In think that's quiet extreme, honestly. Wat beyond what it'd expect any supervisor to ask of the employees.
most people have some connections to their co-workers. And if one of your friends dies right in front of you... it should be human decency to at least give then some time to settle until the body has been taken care off.
Youre responding to an account less than a month old
Ah, I didn't check that. Thanks for pointing that out.
I guess that was me interacting with a bot
Amazon employs around 900,000 people in logistics. The crude annual mortality rate in the USA is around 911/100,000. If there are 900,000 employees working eight hours a day then around seven people a day are dying of natural causes on their shift. This is without considering that they are being worked to the bone.
>>> .00911 * (8 / (24 * 365)) * 900000 = 7.487671232876712
This only works if you assuming the mortality rates are evenly distributed. Most of the people who die are not working right until the end—and the conditions which lead to them dying usually aren’t compatible with a demanding job.
You are correct that it is a rough estimate but my point stands. While most of us will never experience the shock of someone dying at work, it is an every day occurrence at the scale of Amazon.
You have provided no evidence supporting that belief and brushing aside the obvious challenges makes it hard to believe you have done the math. I’d also note that if this was actually true, it would be more surprising that they didn’t have a policy for dealing with it and had to improvise on the fly.
And making people continue to work when their coworker just died on the floor is nonetheless inhumane
Sounds like something out of a dystopian movie
You have a deadline. /s
The utter contempt you express for human life is abhorrent. Cloaking it in math only exacerbates your cruel disregard for, well, lacking shame in expressing such mental illness in public. I’d recommend therapy but you probably have a formula to justify not going to that either. Disgusting.
Whether you like it or not, these numbers provide context. The raw data make no moral judgements.
When I saw the article I recalled a doctor who worked at the sports stadium. Probably every stadium has a doctor on duty because there are medical emergencies any time you get 50,000 people together. Sometimes people die while they are still on the premises.
So I wanted to know how approximately how many people you would expect die of natural causes per day in a group of people as large as Amazon warehouse workers.
If you expect people to die every day while working in an Amazon warehouse and there was no cause of death disclosed for the unfortunate person referenced in TFA then the fact that he died is not news.
The death may not be particularly newsworthy, but the callous reaction of management certainly is.
so they have to stop causing losses to the company and disrupt the supply chain? what should they be doing there instead? the person who has passes, is gone. no longer conscious or functional or ever will be. those workers working there have been provided a livelihood by Amazon so the incentive to keep going is to make sure they dont suffer losses so some of them can be let go.
Yes. Respect for the human who just died is more important than money, and I'm saddened you don't see that.