The media has reported that two British passengers were allowed to fly home, to self isolate, but I am trying to wrap my head around why this was allowed. Given what we learned from the pandemic, would it not have made more sense to have them isolated locally rather than flying back?
The interesting (and concerning) part is that hantavirus was previously believed not to be transmissible from person to person. But with the recent outbreak, this understanding might have to be updated.
No, the Andes virus is known to be the only hantavirus that is transmissible from human to human. A South African lab confirmed the British passenger was infected by Andes virus.
This strain was already known for person to person transmission. In the south of Argentina we had a big outbreak after a sick person went to a birthday party in 2019.
I’m sure this is not the start of another pandemic but these kind of stories sure do give me the same vibe as the sort we were seeing in Jan/Feb 2020...
If this were in China (with a population of billions) I would agree. Until we see cases popping up in India/China/Mexico/Japan, we're able to let it fizzle out.
Man, I am glad the US didn’t get out of the WHO, and there is a sane and responsible HHS Secretary with RFK Jr., whose brain totally did not get eaten by a parasite.
I mean, there are only 300 or so cases recorded in history of the Andes hantavirus human-to-human transmission.
And Trump, the wise man he is, didn’t cut a single dollar on science, especially that of epidemiology and emerging priority pathogens.
You guys are lucky there were no passengers coming back to the US and that there is no global event like the soccer World Cup starting soon or the 250th anniversary of the United States.
I wouldn’t be worried too much, especially knowing how the president dealt with the coronavirus in his first term. They are just going to shine some light into your veins and/or inject disinfectants into you, and your suffering will be over in no time.
I wish my country had an administration that is this good at everything they do, but we wouldn’t know what to do with all those wins.
What's up with all the sarcasm in your comment? It makes it hard to tell when you're speaking the truth versus speaking in opposites. Why not just speak plainly, so people can understand you -- comprehension should be the first goal. You're trying to communicate a serious matter.
Imagine reading a medical abstract, like the one you linked, if it were written in your style of heavy sarcasm.
> They are just going to shine some light into your veins and/or inject disinfectants into you, and your suffering will be over in no time.
Those were Trump's proposed solutions to the COVID-19 pandemic.
Their post is quite clear: the US has an utterly incompetent administration which is actively opposed to the best known method for preventing the spread of deadly viruses: vaccines. Funding for monitoring the spread of diseases has also been cut. The World Cup is a large event which will bring people from all over the world into the US and into close contact for multiple days, right as a new dangerous virus with a long incubation period has been detected spreading from person to person.
The post is unnecessarily political, and is written quite unclearly. The administration certainly will fund a new vaccine if the situation merits it.
The Covid mRNA vaccine, while lifesaving, is not without safety issues. It increases carditis risk substantially[1] (5x the baseline risk in males), and I personally experienced this effect for a month. It is best not to neglect such safety issues, ideally so they might be addressed in future protocols.
The media has reported that two British passengers were allowed to fly home, to self isolate, but I am trying to wrap my head around why this was allowed. Given what we learned from the pandemic, would it not have made more sense to have them isolated locally rather than flying back?
The interesting (and concerning) part is that hantavirus was previously believed not to be transmissible from person to person. But with the recent outbreak, this understanding might have to be updated.
No, the Andes virus is known to be the only hantavirus that is transmissible from human to human. A South African lab confirmed the British passenger was infected by Andes virus.
This strain was already known for person to person transmission. In the south of Argentina we had a big outbreak after a sick person went to a birthday party in 2019.
Some party: 34 infected, 11 died, R of 2.12, 18% infected by aerosol, incubation period 9-40 days
https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMoa2009040
There are already news articles kind-of implying that the crew knew better when they told passengers that the disease was not transmissible.
it seems to be a different strain (and it's not a new one, I think)
So... hantavirus is transmissible.
They all are but generally difficult.
Andes strain is more transmissible but has only been shown to have one super spreader event previously.
I’m sure this is not the start of another pandemic but these kind of stories sure do give me the same vibe as the sort we were seeing in Jan/Feb 2020...
If this were in China (with a population of billions) I would agree. Until we see cases popping up in India/China/Mexico/Japan, we're able to let it fizzle out.
Man, I am glad the US didn’t get out of the WHO, and there is a sane and responsible HHS Secretary with RFK Jr., whose brain totally did not get eaten by a parasite.
I mean, there are only 300 or so cases recorded in history of the Andes hantavirus human-to-human transmission.
https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMoa2009040#ap1&uccL...
And Trump, the wise man he is, didn’t cut a single dollar on science, especially that of epidemiology and emerging priority pathogens.
You guys are lucky there were no passengers coming back to the US and that there is no global event like the soccer World Cup starting soon or the 250th anniversary of the United States.
https://www.nytimes.com/2026/05/06/us/hantavirus-cruise-us-p...
I wouldn’t be worried too much, especially knowing how the president dealt with the coronavirus in his first term. They are just going to shine some light into your veins and/or inject disinfectants into you, and your suffering will be over in no time.
I wish my country had an administration that is this good at everything they do, but we wouldn’t know what to do with all those wins.
Best of luck, Americans.
What's up with all the sarcasm in your comment? It makes it hard to tell when you're speaking the truth versus speaking in opposites. Why not just speak plainly, so people can understand you -- comprehension should be the first goal. You're trying to communicate a serious matter.
Imagine reading a medical abstract, like the one you linked, if it were written in your style of heavy sarcasm.
> They are just going to shine some light into your veins and/or inject disinfectants into you, and your suffering will be over in no time.
Please cut out the sheer nonsense.
She/he probably reads The Onion a lot and has caught the sarcasm bug.
Those were Trump's proposed solutions to the COVID-19 pandemic.
Their post is quite clear: the US has an utterly incompetent administration which is actively opposed to the best known method for preventing the spread of deadly viruses: vaccines. Funding for monitoring the spread of diseases has also been cut. The World Cup is a large event which will bring people from all over the world into the US and into close contact for multiple days, right as a new dangerous virus with a long incubation period has been detected spreading from person to person.
The post is unnecessarily political, and is written quite unclearly. The administration certainly will fund a new vaccine if the situation merits it.
The Covid mRNA vaccine, while lifesaving, is not without safety issues. It increases carditis risk substantially[1] (5x the baseline risk in males), and I personally experienced this effect for a month. It is best not to neglect such safety issues, ideally so they might be addressed in future protocols.
[1]: Risk for carditis tied to second dose of Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19 vaccine: https://medicalxpress.com/news/2022-01-carditis-tied-dose-pf...