Not surprised. Just the other day I found Defender using a significant portion of my CPU, which was curious because I have Defender disabled. Did a virus and malware scan thinking it was some other program calling itself Defender, nothing. Double checked windows antivirus settings, claims it is disabled. So off to google which leads me to more ways to hard disable Defender, and it worked confirming Defender was used as a screen by Microsoft for a more nefarious process. There is nothing legitimate defender could have been doing to be using so much CPU and memory when the antivirus capabilities were disabled.
>So off to google which leads me to more ways to hard disable Defender, and it worked confirming Defender was used as a screen by Microsoft for a more nefarious process
Why immediately jump to "screen by Microsoft for a more nefarious process"? It sounds like you were sloppy with your initial disabling (or more charitably, microsoft dark patterns), so you actually disabled "real time protection" or whatever, rather than everything.
I disabled all those settings in the virus and protection panel and all reported it was shut down. I had in the past disabled it with the a registry edit. I shouldn't have had to go past the antivirus panel, I definitely shouldn't have had to go beyond registry to start with, and yet that still wasn't enough and I had to disable it in group policy also.
So I don't know how you can call it anything but nefarious. It didn't turn itself back on in any setting panels, it claimed it was disabled and was confirmed disabled for a number of years, then suddenly comes back on in the background despite claiming to still be shut off.
This is 100% true; you are not paranoid. Microsoft is looting code boxes and trying to reverse engineer for their own LLM's. ...Maybe I should capitalize "loot". hmmmm, I wonder what mega companies think about this.
30 years ago they couldn't upload it because you didn't have an internet connection, but if everyone did it would have, because they didn't know the origin of an exe file 30 years ago either.
Not surprised. Just the other day I found Defender using a significant portion of my CPU, which was curious because I have Defender disabled. Did a virus and malware scan thinking it was some other program calling itself Defender, nothing. Double checked windows antivirus settings, claims it is disabled. So off to google which leads me to more ways to hard disable Defender, and it worked confirming Defender was used as a screen by Microsoft for a more nefarious process. There is nothing legitimate defender could have been doing to be using so much CPU and memory when the antivirus capabilities were disabled.
So basically, paranoia confirmed.
>So off to google which leads me to more ways to hard disable Defender, and it worked confirming Defender was used as a screen by Microsoft for a more nefarious process
Why immediately jump to "screen by Microsoft for a more nefarious process"? It sounds like you were sloppy with your initial disabling (or more charitably, microsoft dark patterns), so you actually disabled "real time protection" or whatever, rather than everything.
I disabled all those settings in the virus and protection panel and all reported it was shut down. I had in the past disabled it with the a registry edit. I shouldn't have had to go past the antivirus panel, I definitely shouldn't have had to go beyond registry to start with, and yet that still wasn't enough and I had to disable it in group policy also.
So I don't know how you can call it anything but nefarious. It didn't turn itself back on in any setting panels, it claimed it was disabled and was confirmed disabled for a number of years, then suddenly comes back on in the background despite claiming to still be shut off.
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This is 100% true; you are not paranoid. Microsoft is looting code boxes and trying to reverse engineer for their own LLM's. ...Maybe I should capitalize "loot". hmmmm, I wonder what mega companies think about this.
Disabled Defender gets reenabled back usually after updates. At this point just go with Linux. Also stop developing support for Windows app.
Please kill the background "green rain" animation after 10 seconds or something.
done. try now.
Why I haven't trusted Microsoft for over 20 years now.
> I object to uploading my unreleased builds under that default.
How is Defender supposed to know the origin of an exe on disk?
> How is Defender supposed to know the origin of an exe on disk?
Like any antivirus program did 30 years ago. I know, SW is hard at Microsoft but ...
30 years ago they couldn't upload it because you didn't have an internet connection, but if everyone did it would have, because they didn't know the origin of an exe file 30 years ago either.
> 30 years ago they couldn't upload it because you didn't have an internet connection
No, in 1996 it's extremely likely that they did have an Internet connection, though probably a crummy dialup one.
Not in 1996 it wasn't "extremely likely". A quick google tells me that in the UK for example 3% of homes had internet connections in 1996
And how many used a computer?
29% of UK homes owned a computer in 1996. So about 10% of those computers were internet connected
Those people can't help themselves.
This reads like an ad.
Abort, Retry, Fail, Install Linux?
(Or ameliorated )
I am always confused when people complain about windows but actually use it. Just why?
Would they be complaining if they didn't?
Good point. But bashing windows is kinda part of the Linux lifestyle
Is this an ad or is the author genuinely surprised by this?
Maybe a reason it took 3 submissions? https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=50459762 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=50455563
clearly they didnt want to run it. is this not a serious issue?
Their profile says that they're a cybersecurity professional, so it's probably just an ad
sl-op
I mean, it kind of makes sense. In any case, stop using Windows.